We're talking vendors that try to do too much and Christmas gift ideas for photographers. Dustin's drinking a Budweiser while Steve is drinking either a Storm King or a Hop Lift... We didn't record that part this time so it's a little fuzzy. Questions from this recording are whether or not we use accountants for tax purposes and whether or not the apple watch is useful during events.

Also, we talk a lot about Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman... like surprising amount. So maybe hit up their wikipedia pages or something (we didn't). Wow... I really don't take the time to do the show notes right when I'm a day late on the upload... Sorry.

Those driving shoes Steve was talking about: https://www.amazon.com/Bruno-Kilin-02-Driving-Loafers-Moccasins/

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